Uncle crimbos gifts

[ElleDriver]

That grub is an enigma wrapped in a mystery wrapped in a riddle... so tempting.

Edit: Oh damnation, I'm stuck on the choice adventure. I was able to navigate away from it before in an earlier session, then I logged in just now and I'm looking at Uncle Crimbo's ugly mug. Grrr, I wanted to save it.

[Shrewd]

Originally Posted by ElleDriver

That grub is an enigma wrapped in a mystery wrapped in a riddle... so tempting.

Edit: Oh damnation, I'm stuck on the choice adventure.

Really? I typed in a macro and it sent me to the mall

[johndoe244]

Originally Posted by Corlain

I just hope someone spades the stacking of the new

Spoiler:

watch

soon.

Oh I'm sure someone will spade it ASAHP.

I'm torn.

The muscle item... there's gotta be something more to that. Maybe it counts as a shield or something. Maybe it has an "at rollover" effect. It's certainly a tempting little thing. I feel like I should get it on the premise of it having a hidden effect. But then, it's an "ok for nothing" item as it is... so maybe I shouldn't feel entitled.

The gun... well that's just a cool looking item! It looks cool. But I got better ranged weapons. Super accurate looks appealing... but... I think I'm gonna pass.

And that leaves the watch. Well... I am a Pastamancer, Dammit. And spell damage is nice. I get this feeling that it's not gonna stack with other watches and that me getting it is going to be a waste of time... And I really don't think it has any investment value... but what the hell! Gotta pick something. The watch it is.

Personally I think the smart choice is the stuffie. Not many people are going to take it. And if there is a hidden effect, well prices will rise. But the watch fits what I'm all about.

[zarufan1]

/me waits for people to start bitching about how the new watch is just a re-do of the imitation watch.


/me waits for spaders to learn that the grubthing adds extra turns to booze .

/me waits waits for everyone to find the "transform" button on the gun that turns it into a familiar.



WIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE CRIMBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I's so excited ma hands r shakin'. That and it's cold out here, maybe.

[ElleDriver]

Originally Posted by Shrewd

Really? I typed in a macro and it sent me to the mall

I tried "/go The Mall" and "/go Search the Mall", and it seemed to be working (I got the message "Sending you to the mall") but it didn't actually do anything - I'm still staring down Uncle Crimbo.

[Harry Pesto]

I'm happy with the watch--it saves me from doing an HC PM run for a watch, which is nice. For some reason I've lost all interest in HC lately.

The weapon also looks cool, but I almost never use ranged weapons.

[Old1]

I'm going to guess that all the radioactive gifts are affected by the moon phases. Which is exciting, knowing that some days the watch will give +5 adventures at rollover.

[kaindragoon]

slightly less exciting when you realise that there's 2 pieces of grimacite equipment that sell for quite cheap that do the same job...

I don't think it's likely to change.

[bokodasu]

Originally Posted by Personal Robot Jesus

I feel bad, as this is the first time I've really questioned/been upset with TPTB

Well, I don't feel as strongly about it as you seem to, but yeah. This is my fifth Crimbo, and the first time I'm not really feelin' it. The insanely low drop rates weren't fun, the narrative was kinda slack, and the presenting of the presents was... kinda underwhelming. (Note that I am not complaining about the presents themselves. Just... I dunno. Here, have some stuff, I'm not even gonna wrap it for you? Meh.)

On the other hand, that means that pretty much whatever they choose to do next year will look great in comparison to this one. I mean, I'm not even sure how it'd be possible to top last year's - there's gotta be an expectation-reset sometime.

Actually, I think it'd be kinda funny if they chose to do Ye Olde Crimbo next year - nuffin' but a present on Crimbo day. And when you open it, it's an orange, or a stick of candy, or a shiny penny. (Blob of gristle?) At least people wouldn't be getting their hopes all insanely out of proportion.

[Gracious Cymbals]

I am a little frustrated that I can't do anything until I decide. While a decision may be better than taking whatever they randomly give out - some people are always disappointed because they got "the worst one" and even have trouble trading for the other they really wanted - this seems to be a trap. One of these presents just doesn't seem to be as great as the others, which obviously (?) means it will turn out to be more than it seems... or not. It's something of a penalty for wanting to make a sound decision instead of taking a chance. I guess. It's not the worst idea but it's holding me up until I gamble. Well, anyway, it's nice to see what crazy Uncle Crimbo is up to since last year.

[tripinthehed]

Originally Posted by bokodasu

Actually, I think it'd be kinda funny if they chose to do Ye Olde Crimbo next year - nuffin' but a present on Crimbo day. And when you open it, it's an orange, or a stick of candy, or a shiny penny. (Blob of gristle?) At least people wouldn't be getting their hopes all insanely out of proportion.

That'd be hilarious.

Though I prefer the story.
I'm quite pleased with Crimbo this year.

I hope all you whiners get a worthless trinket and nothing else next year.

[laparapa]

This is probably my third, maybe fourth Crimbo, and I didn't really get the same "WOAH THIS IS AWESOME, I REALLY LIKED STAYING HERE ANOTHER YEAR FOR THIS" feeling that I got with the last three/four. I'm left with the distinct feeling of "It's over?" instead. Maybe it isn't over yet. I'm praying it isn't over yet. Still got five days, maybe something will happen.

The

Spoiler:

psycho sweater

kinda bugged me, along with the

Spoiler:

miniature antlers

. I don't know if there was some kind of mechanic that I was missing, or if it was just a really low drop rate, but it was rather depressing to realize I'd spent close to 700 adventures trying to get them.

The presents were average. I mean, most of us have seen a watch rather similar, the gun seems rather meh, and the grub just doesn't seem to make any sense right now.

However, it does make a change from the usual, and I enjoyed it enough, so I guess it was a job well done.

And I liked the outfit, too.

[Arashmin]

So far, the most beneficial items to come from this Crimbo were the consumables - sandwich and moonshine for damage, limbos, canteens and blob shaped cookies for stats, and the Festive Radiation is an all-around okay buff.

The +% crit item only works based on the moons, and is not the best at doing it even then.
The +fam weight item has not yet shown itself to go over the weight of normal fam equips.
The Psycho Sweater could be nice... if I ever got one -_-
Whittling Crits don't seem that special when the hookspear, V for Vivala, and the whackin' stick all exist.
The low level drops with low drop rates... c'mon.
Re-hashing old content... c'mon.
The Mutant Couture is actually also pretty neat, I'd have to say, but won't be used much in the long run.
I'd rather my punches for the TPs be the cookies again...
And the presents. Le coup de grace. Terribly unexciting, looking at them, they may vary slightly with the moon if it's +(x/2) for them, and then the one enchantment on the weapon being simply +x. Beyond that, they seem... just terribly underwhelming. And no wrapping!? No "Generic Summer Wrapping" or "Radiated Kingdom Wrapping" or something? This makes me shed a single, lonely tear.

This is definitely one Crimbo for the records, though in which way it'll be remembered...

[LightWolf]

Spoiler:

Would that more adventurers had taken the time to cure my brethren!"

From the atomic factory now. Makes me wonder if there weren't in fact 4 different endings. Depending on whether you killed more penguins, or elfs, that area would remain open after crimbo. BUT, you could have also cured or bribed more penguins/eleves then were killed as well... so...

A very Don Crimbo (Kill elves) (Atomic factory remains open, Penguin presents)
The crimbo miracle (Save elves) (?, Stable elf presents)
A very extorted Crimbo (Bribe Penguins) (?, Penguin Extortion presents)
A very fallout Crimbo (Kill penguins) (Old Fasion Factory remains open, Atomic Presents)


Of course if they had actually let on that saving/bribing may have had different endings as well, it would have changed how people acted/organized. some. But I guess the MP/item cost associated with it kinda deterred people from even assuming that might be the case (though maybe they would have been slightly stronger presents because of it)

[Lightli]

Actually, I'm guessing that the item strength will depend on the number of dark moon segments. I'm guessing that means +8 adventures on the watch at best.

I can hear the calls to nerf it from here.

[mr skullhead]

And now for the other annual Crimbo tradition, which follows closely the "bitching about content" tradition.

tl;dr: Of all the bullshit critique of this content, accusing us of laziness is the worst. If you seriously think that, fuck off and don't come back. You will not be missed.

Arashmin, and those who share the sentiment below, fuck you. Fuck each and every one of you. Fuck you sleeping, fuck you waking up, fuck you standing, fuck you lying down. Fuck the horse you rode in on, the groom that brushed its mane, and the blacksmith that made its shoes. Fuck your mother, your father, any siblings, and any other living members of your family tree. Fuck you.

What is this 'rehashed content' that you're talking about? The Crimbo Cafe? Dude, we didn't have to change the fucking cafe, I thought that was a fun little bonus to harken back to 2005, the first disappointing Crimbo. Did you fucks even notice the food was rolled back to the 2005 power? Since you whiny motherfuckers were bitching about how the food in the Cafe sucks since it's been nerfed, I thought that'd make you happy. Fuck me for trying.

The rest of the content was not only pretty expansive, but also brand fuckin' new. Ten new monsters, with drops and craftables? A new mechanism for getting the craftables? Rare drops to keep it interesting? None of that resonating for you?

The narrative was weak compared to last year? Well, I guess it was pretty fucking bad then, because last year everyone said the story was too easy to figure out and it was obviously a lame attempt to retcon Father Crimbo. And *that* story must have been super fuckin' lame, because it was even lamer than 2006's story, which introduced some new character named Linnea just to defeat her at the end, and lacked a cohesive ending, and didn't have enough content to keep people busy. I suppose before I rant about you sons of bitches complaining about how Crimbo sucks, I should wait 'til next year, when this Crimbo was AWESOME and the new Crimbo sucks. Talk about rehashing old content...

Low drop rates? Favoring farmers? Fuck you. We put in a couple of rare items to make things interesting on both sides. No one said you HAD to have every single thing. Another example of us doing something new because everything we've ever done on Crimbo before sucks balls, according to you cockfags, and then suddenly every other Crimbo was awesome and this one sucks. The items are underpowered? FUCK YOU. What, because every other Crimbo had such powerful motherfucking items? Because Crimbo is known for introducing super powerful items into the fucking Kingdom? Fuck off.

Leave it to you shitdicks to decide one side's better than the other, so obviously we must have intended for one side to win. News flash: 99% of the people playing don't care about your stupid bullshit. If it was so obvious the elves were supposed to win, why was the margin so close? This was a huge first for KoL: a truly global event, where players' actions directly influenced the flow of content and the outcome of the event. That was a huge departure, and we stuck with it to the end. I actually liked the penguin ending (which was already written, by the way, you assholes), but we went with the elves because you decided they won. That was a response to last year, when people wondered if we kept track of whether people chose to kill Father Crimbo or not. "That was lame that whatever we picked, we got the same outcome." "Oh, this year the players will be in charge of the outcome!" "Fuck you, that sucks." Suck a dick.

Nobody stacked the fucking deck for either side, unless you're the kind of spreadsheet-making, bean-counting, graph-making virgin who would seriously take optional fucking bonus fucking holiday fucking content and analyze how optimal it is. Fuck off. Like I said, the final score indicates that people were vigorously killing on both sides, and it was damn near a tie (in which case I would have happily had the pirates come in and take over.

Presents are suboptimal? FUCK YOU. Have you ever gotten a crimbo pressie before? last year's gave a +3 stat bonus once a day and gave a stat bonus while equipped. The year before gave a minuscule stat-tuned volleyball bonus. The year before was +15 spell damage, +5 cold damage, and +5 moxie. Jesus jumping Jehosaphat, how dare we nerf Crimbo pressies so much!

No outfit in the pressies? Fuck you. We put the outfit in the content last year, too, as a response to criticism that every previous Crimbo we gave people 1/3rd of an outfit.

No wrapping paper? Fuck you. You didn't get any wrapping paper last year, either. We actually let you pick your own motherfucking present this year, and you're complaining about the presentation?

The worst of all of this, the one that really pisses me off, is the whole "you guys were too lazy to write content so you stacked the deck so you wouldn't have to do any interesting writing." If you seriously believe that and you're not just trolling, I invite you to get some mayo, mustard, and maybe a dollop of sour cream, and eat my motherfucking ass. We have all spent hours working on this content for you ungrateful bitches. Like I said, the penguin content would have been fun (as would a penguin Crimbo next year, so I may have to figure out how to work that back in). I liked my herring-themed Crimbo Cafe, but maybe it'll pop up later. Nah, wouldn't want to reuse content, even content people haven't seen -- that'd be lazy.

I take consolation in the fact that most people aren't the kind of shit-dicked turdblossoms that have been posting in this thread. I just wish they'd be a little more vocal. Ah, well, at least this Crimbo will be the best ever when next year's shitty Crimbo rolls out. My work here is done: yet another disappointing Crimbo for the children. Fuck you.

Originally Posted by Arashmin

So far, the most beneficial items to come from this Crimbo were the consumables - sandwich and moonshine for damage, limbos, canteens and blob shaped cookies for stats, and the Festive Radiation is an all-around okay buff.

The +% crit item only works based on the moons, and is not the best at doing it even then.
The +fam weight item has not yet shown itself to go over the weight of normal fam equips.
The Psycho Sweater could be nice... if I ever got one -_-
Whittling Crits don't seem that special when the hookspear, V for Vivala, and the whackin' stick all exist.
The low level drops with low drop rates... c'mon.
Re-hashing old content... c'mon.
The Mutant Couture is actually also pretty neat, I'd have to say, but won't be used much in the long run.
I'd rather my punches for the TPs be the cookies again...
And the presents. Le coup de grace. Terribly unexciting, looking at them, they may vary slightly with the moon if it's +(x/2) for them, and then the one enchantment on the weapon being simply +x. Beyond that, they seem... just terribly underwhelming. And no wrapping!? No "Generic Summer Wrapping" or "Radiated Kingdom Wrapping" or something? This makes me shed a single, lonely tear.

This is definitely one Crimbo for the records, though in which way it'll be remembered...

[Gracious Cymbals]

That's what Crimbo means to me.

[MC Scared of Bees]

Originally Posted by mr skullhead

I take consolation in the fact that most people aren't the kind of shit-dicked turdblossoms that have been posting in this thread. I just wish they'd be a little more vocal.

One on the "did not hate this Crimbo" side here.

What an awesome goddamned rant that was, too.

[GothicWonder]

I like the Crimbo this year, it was different from the others as you don't want the same content each time do you? It did get a bit boring continually smashing elves or penguins but you do have a choice to stop if you want and these drops aren't the best ones but in KoL except for IotM there is no really game changing drops that are 1 time only.

Thanks TPTB this was a Crimbo I'm glad I was here for it and hope to be here for future ones that are as interesting in story line and monsters there.

[SweetMadness]

I'm going to go with the gun. I'd like having more rollover adventures, but the dart gun sounds more useful for adventuring.

[Mr. Calms]

"Arashmin, and those who share the sentiment below, fuck you. Fuck each and every one of you. Fuck you sleeping, fuck you waking up, fuck you standing, fuck you lying down. Fuck the horse you rode in on, the groom that brushed its mane, and the blacksmith that made its shoes. Fuck your mother, your father, any siblings, and any other living members of your family tree. Fuck you."

Exquisite!

[Raymond_Kinger]

He makes a good point though.

Thanks guys for crimbo!

[Mr. Calms]

Without a doubt! Any Crimbo is a good Crimbo.

[yoyogod]

I liked Crimbo, even if I didn't manage to get the rare drops to drop. After all, that's what the mall is for. I loved the story and the presents and the mechanics.

Seriously, Skully, I think you should keep track of all the people who whine about Crimbo, and then next year instead of getting cool new content, all they get is a lump of coal that's untradeble, undiscardable, has no use, and with a description of "I'm a whiny little bitch/bastard" (depending on their sex).

[LightWolf]

... or ending 5...

A Merry Fucking Crimbo (beat the Dev's spirits)


read THAT narrative. some of the best written in a while (only cause we missed out on the penguin ending)

[MC Scared of Bees]

Originally Posted by yoyogod

a lump of coal that's untradeble, undiscardable, has no use, and with a description of "I'm a whiny little bitch/bastard" (depending on their sex).

You forgot "autoequips into acc4".

[LightWolf]

Originally Posted by yoyogod

then next year instead of getting cool new content, all they get is a lump of coal that's untradeble, undiscardable, has no use, and with a description of "I'm a whiny little bitch/bastard" (depending on their sex).

You really want to suggest giveing the min/maxers gotta have it all players a limited edition untradeable item? Think about it.

Although if it disiniegrated in like a day or something...


p.s. hurray mr. exploiter item

[nitocris]

So, I enjoyed this year's Crimbo, and all of the previous Crimbos. I like my presents too..but Skully's Crimbo rant was the best present of all.

[tripinthehed]

Originally Posted by mr skullhead

I actually liked the penguin ending (which was already written, by the way, you assholes),

Any chance of spilling the beans on what that ending would've been?

[Six Vandrena]

Woah Skully, calm down There's a lot of jerks in this thread - don't let it get to you. It's Crimbo, have some schnapps and some beans.

I enjoyed Crimbo this year. Last year was definitely my favorite of the Crimbos I have experienced, I know that it set the bar -really- high. I think most of the angry complaints come from that feeling of letdown.

The singular criticism I have is the super-low drop rate of the rare items. One of the things about Crimbo that has been a constant for a few years is that without -excessive- effort, it was possible to get all of the Crimbo drops/constructions, except for the pressies. No, Skully, you have never promised anyone can have everything (except HolderofSecrets!) but the past few Crimbos have been more forgiving than The Sea when it comes to item drops.

[Gracious Cymbals]

As for the content portion of this year's Crimbo, I really liked that it was overall less compulsory. Everyone got plenty of chances at it, for days and days if they liked, or they could check it out and still work on their regular tasks without missing much. "Can't miss a day or you'll miss a lot" type of content tends to agitate me because I don't have enough time and/or power to participate/complete the specials, so the relief of this year's pace was a great gift to a lot of people, including me. Thanks!

[NihilistSkism]

/hug mr Skullhead

-nihil

[avbferry1986]

would they reveal what items would have been available had the elves lost?

[jef]

It wouldn't be Crimbo without Skully's post-Crimbo flame! Yay!

Now comes Willer time.

[Giga Shadow]

Originally Posted by tripinthehed

Any chance of spilling the beans on what that ending would've been?

On that note, what about if we had cured enough elves(and what was the amount needed)?

[jamfan14]

I'm already looking forward to the inevitable bitching a year from now, and the inevitable fuck you response!

That being said - another successful crimbo. I started this game in November of 06 and definitely Crimbo played a big part in my ever growing addiction. Thanks TPTB

[DerMagus]

...as to not run the risk of being banned or whatever: Skullhead, be silent, shut your mouth, don't say a word. You should have learnt from last time. Had you not said a word, this thread would have died. Now the damage is done. Again. And you come over like an arrogant asshole that feels great about what he creates and demands appreciation from everyone. You don't. You cannot please everyone. It is not possible. There are different views. You cannot please everyone with one thing - some will dislike this very one thing deep inside for whatever (valid!) reason.

Mostly, though, I do not care about liking/disliking Crimbo, reasons and validity.

Sadly, you came over here as a very arrogant and insulting, ranting person. You addresses specific people with "Fuck You"... and I feel this is a very bad way to deal with your playerbase. I felt "collectively insulted", if I may say so, by your choice of words. And I did not even read your whole post as you you came over as "Fuck you fucking fucked fuckers, I made great thing and you can fuckingly fuck yourself fucking and fucking go away while you fuck the fuck of the fuck.". Please. Shut up. You are not doing yourself any favour. And if you were not an admin, some moderator would have locked this thread, edited your post and whatever. Frankly, I find this mostly sad.

[Giga Shadow]

Originally Posted by DerMagus

You should have learnt from last time. Had you not said a word, this thread would have died. Now the damage is done.

pssst i dont know if you noticed but people were already bitching about crimbo before skully said anything

[jparmar44]

This crimbo has been ok, and its obvious how the focus has shifted. With the time sleigh xmas, it was literally :O where's uncle crimbo gone?! Wheras now, what i hear more prevalently is "yay scalers for stats!" or "wow, i got this rare drop, i did pretty well".

Though that could be due to different company I keep. Personally, I preferred last years, dont see what the problem was tbh. however, I do think the gifts seem a bit underpowered compared to the TPS and Driedl of yore and the bigger choice between them, but i suppose xmas gifts have been weakening lately, and that could just be the advantage of being a long term player

[DerMagus]

Originally Posted by Giga Shadow

pssst i dont know if you noticed but people were already bitching about crimbo before skully said anything

That's not the damage I meant. If that even counts as "damage". The real damage I see in the self-presentation of one of the developers of this game and how he addresses "customers/players". It is, in one word, inappropriate.

[TeKRunneR]

Feel the love! Merry Crimbo everyone!

[mr skullhead]

...as to not run the risk of being banned or whatever: Skullhead, be silent, shut your mouth, don't say a word. You should have learnt from last time. Had you not said a word, this thread would have died. Now the damage is done. Again. And you come over like an arrogant asshole that feels great about what he creates and demands appreciation from everyone. You don't. You cannot please everyone. It is not possible. There are different views. You cannot please everyone with one thing - some will dislike this very one thing deep inside for whatever (valid!) reason.

I reserve the right to defend the content we provided, and I reserve the right to do it with as many expletives as I feel are fucking necessary. This thread inspired a rant, and a rant it got. There were specific, incredibly misbegotten opinions being expressed here that I wanted to address. Guess what? This is not a one-sided conversation, where people get to tear apart our last few months of work while we sit on our hands. I don't demand appreciation, but I reserve the right to deal on people who say ignorant shit in my house. If you can't deal with that, there's the fuckin' door. Okay, there's no door. You'll just have to type a different URL into your browser .


[quote[Sadly, you came over here as a very arrogant and insulting, ranting person. You addresses specific people with "Fuck You"... and I feel this is a very bad way to deal with your playerbase. I felt "collectively insulted", if I may say so, by your choice of words. And I did not even read your whole post as you you came over as "Fuck you fucking fucked fuckers, I made great thing and you can fuckingly fuck yourself fucking and fucking go away while you fuck the fuck of the fuck.". Please. Shut up. You are not doing yourself any favour. And if you were not an admin, some moderator would have locked this thread, edited your post and whatever. Frankly, I find this mostly sad.[/quote]

I'm sorry you feel collectively insulted. That was an oversight on my part, and I'd like to have the chance to rectify it. Fuck you, specifically, DerMagus. I mean, seriously. You've been here since 2005, and you hadn't figured out that I'm a belligerent, arrogant prick who can't abide opinions he doesn't agree with, and acts in a horribly unprofessional way to his paying customers, and will therefore cause the downfall of the company any day now?

And yet, somehow, we're all still here, and we're doing the old Crimbo dance. Ah, the old traditions.

[ElleDriver]

I don't get why people praise the admins when they publicly excoriate someone on the forums. I mean, especially today, it seems like entirely the wrong time to flame someone to a crisp.

Even if someone's opinion is demonstrably wrong, when has that ever meant that the appropriate response is "fuck you"? Isn't it usually "you're wrong, here's why"? Who else could get away with such an abusive post outside the RoF? If that was the general tone of the discourse here, it would be chaos.

Maybe skully feels like a criticism of his content is a personal attack, but I expected that by now he would be used to the fact that it's impossible to make something that's universally loved. Seeking out the complaints and ignoring the praise is a sure way to give yourself a blue crimbo...

Nobody stacked the fucking deck for either side, unless you're the kind of spreadsheet-making, bean-counting, graph-making virgin who would seriously take optional fucking bonus fucking holiday fucking content and analyze how optimal it is. Fuck off.

Maybe that was supposed to be a joke, but it seems like a pretty mean-spirited blow at a sizable segment of the playerbase -- a segment of the playerbase who love the game enough to devote a lot of thought and time to getting the most out of it that they can.

Also, I liked this Crimbo. Just saying.

[Giga Shadow]

Originally Posted by DerMagus

That's not the damage I meant. If that even counts as "damage". The real damage I see in the self-presentation of one of the developers of this game and how he addresses "customers/players". It is, in one word, inappropriate.

This isn't exactly a new development, y'know: Skully trashing the Crimbo-haters for hating. If Skully's known for being the jerk when others are being jerks about Crimbo, why not take the opportunity to vent some anger out like everyone's already expecting to happen?

In case you haven't realized, KoL isn't really about being 100% professional and giving the playerbase the same generic crap they'll get from every big company in the world(and some people actually kinda like that). And somehow, despite all the 'customers', they MAY be scaring away, they manage to do just fine.

[poik007]

people always whine don't worry Mr Skullhead

Even if crimbo gave +100% stats items or something people would still find a way to go "heh they just made items that give massive ammounts of stats instead of making new stuff" Game design isn't easy. Especially in an online game like KoL

I loved this year's Crimbo, anyway, all the fun foods with the buffs are awesome

[zanotam]

Choose a burrowgrub and sold it and rations for 900k, first thing. Prices are going to drop in a few days and I'll pick up all 3 presents then.

While there were a lot of complaints, everyone seems to be unable to stop playing so it can't have been THAT bad...

I now feel retarded though for selling my miniature antlers for 350k. I sold two for that much. I just figured, hey, why not. It's crimbo, I'm a nice person and selling items I can just get more of cheap is a nice thing to do. I'm an idiot.

[nelix]

I must say Mr. Skullhead, fuck yeah don't take no smack.
I enjoyed it, and I'd like to see the alternate content next year, I'd rather lazy content reuse than less content.
To be honest I'm amazed that on Crimbo morning I can wake up and find new content in a game, while most people are taking there unwanted pet gifts to the lake to drown. Here we have free stuff instead of no stuff.
Now I am getting into spreadsheet whoring my self a little recently and most people like uber items and they like to buy the bestest they can, but I sometimes I just like to fuck around with things that look cool, have references to culture I like and use the game to otherwise express my personality, and a glow in the dark watch contributes to this just as much as 100 fake hands.
KOL balences stats whoring, collecting, humour and game play somehow, it really is quite special.

So thanks. Maybe next Crimbo implement a way to express thanks.

[IstariAsuka]

I have to say that I haven't been able to see much of this year's content, due to being too busy, but when I have had a few minutes to log on I have been pleasantly surprised by the relative lack of Crimbo lag (surely also thanks to CDM) and also that I hear all the content is tradeable, so I haven't missed out on anything permanently due to my absense. Which is great! Seems like quite a nice crimbo.

However...

Originally Posted by mr skullhead

Nobody stacked the fucking deck for either side, unless you're the kind of spreadsheet-making, bean-counting, graph-making virgin who would seriously take optional fucking bonus fucking holiday fucking content and analyze how optimal it is. Fuck off.

This confuses me.

Are you saying that a "spreadsheet-making, bean-counting, graph-making virgin" can demonstrate that the deck was "stacked?" Perhaps by introducing one side with an extra monster before the other side or whatever? If so, that seems quite a reasonable and valid point to make, and I'd probably trust them and not insult them. (Note that I didn't pay enough attention to know if these complaints are substantiated by the evidence, but from what little I know it seems not improbable.) Pointing out that things were potentially made uneven due to how the content was released is completely fair... I don't see why it upsets you.

And furthermore, analyzing how optimal "fucking holday fucking content" is is also totally reasonable. I mean, it's content like any other, and many players find enjoyment in considering what they can do with the content. Just like they analyze every other bit of content in the game. Seriously. Insulting an entire playstyle in the way that you're doing makes you look like a bigger asshole than me, even. Guess what? This is a game. You'll have to excuse some people for treating it as such, instead of randomly clicking through content and treating it like a glorified storybook.

[SpasticDancer]

We're sorry Mr. Skullhead! Please forgive us!

[Wyvern~]

Originally Posted by DerMagus

...as to not run the risk of being banned or whatever: Skullhead, be silent, shut your mouth, don't say a word. You should have learnt from last time. Had you not said a word, this thread would have died. Now the damage is done. Again. And you come over like an arrogant asshole that feels great about what he creates and demands appreciation from everyone. You don't. You cannot please everyone. It is not possible. There are different views. You cannot please everyone with one thing - some will dislike this very one thing deep inside for whatever (valid!) reason.

Mostly, though, I do not care about liking/disliking Crimbo, reasons and validity.

Sadly, you came over here as a very arrogant and insulting, ranting person. You addresses specific people with "Fuck You"... and I feel this is a very bad way to deal with your playerbase. I felt "collectively insulted", if I may say so, by your choice of words. And I did not even read your whole post as you you came over as "Fuck you fucking fucked fuckers, I made great thing and you can fuckingly fuck yourself fucking and fucking go away while you fuck the fuck of the fuck.". Please. Shut up. You are not doing yourself any favour. And if you were not an admin, some moderator would have locked this thread, edited your post and whatever. Frankly, I find this mostly sad.

Actually he came off as a disappointed parent, who was upset that his children couldn't appreciate all the hard work that he went through to provide us with what we got.

The people whining sound like the kids who would cry and throw their new wii at their parents, because their parents bought them the wii instead of the iPhone.


Love the watch kids. It's always time to overinvest.

[Gracious Cymbals]

I still love my TPS that I got in '04, but I have a feeling if you went back to the year we didn't have to do anything and still got an awesome present, it would be less popular than a couple weeks of content balanced with average-good presents. I'm biased toward content that doesn't require a lot of attention daily, like this year's was. The year of '05 was the year we protested, and if you didn't protest enough, you lost a trophy, and I had a multi who lost out on that trophy because it didn't last just a couple reindeer more. In '06, that same multi spaced out and lost content because of forgetting to finish the quest. No mall on that multi, either. I think the motivation to play during Crimbo should not stress people out. Crimbo is for everyone, and not just a few people have less time to play and plan things out so they get "EVERYTHING." It's nice if people who are bitching have some sentiment toward their fellow players who deserve Crimbo. If there are some other areas of content or holidays which recur, the usual answer is to plan to participate or miss out - it's not usually the end of the world if you miss one, but jeez. Crimbo is for good boys and girls, not selfish assholes. It's for everyone, every year.

[Arashmin]

Wow.

I can even compliment some of the work, the consumables, the coutoure, etc., and yet I can still get ragged on that badly? I must really be a piece of work.

Frankly Skully, with the amt. of fucking you wish to do, you should get your nymphomania checked out. Especially the horse, the groom and the blacksmith... I mean, geez, only the horse is even somewhat pretty.

No matter what, though, as this is a public forum, I respect your sentiments and will keep that in mind the next time I do decide to evaluate your content. And this does at least prove one thing that makes your a fairly decent game designer - you obviously are paying some attention to our concerns and critiques.

And by the way, 2007 was definitely not lackluster in comparison to the other Crimbos. It provided the most beneficial items, the most exciting content, the best written material I'd have to say that I've seen to date, even in the face of Hobopolis.

Cheers!

EDIT: By the way, I'm now bolding your name in my sig, Skully. A monument to the momentous occasion.

[Karl Dark]

Originally Posted by ElleDriver

I don't get why people praise the admins when they publicly excoriate someone on the forums. I mean, especially today, it seems like entirely the wrong time to flame someone to a crisp.

you're sense of timing could use some work.

I invite you to get some mayo, mustard, and maybe a dollop of sour cream, and eat my motherfucking ass.

And this is why Skully is awesome... because he managed to work dollop into a flame.

[BrokenJack]

Originally Posted by mr skullhead

I take consolation in the fact that most people aren't the kind of shit-dicked turdblossoms that have been posting in this thread. I just wish they'd be a little more vocal.

Okay. I won't say much because I believe most has been said. I do want to comment on the "Crimbo was designed to make the penguins lose" sentiments. To me, this is bullshit. Did any of you saying this stop to think that some of us PURPOSELY killed as many penguins as we could, not for the item drops, but because we WANTED them to lose? Or was I the only one who actually wanted the elves to win?

[Gregonzola]

I'm actually trying to decide if Skullhead's providing us with a humorous yearly tradition of hosing whiners or if he's actually that angry.

I've been playing for a couple of years now, but never gotten deep into min/maxing, gotta have it all, etc.

It's a game, and it's fun. That's why it's here. That, and to shamelessly get as many $10 donations as possible. Bravo capitalism.

As for Crimbo, it's a fun change of pace. My uncomplicated response to it isn't a detailed critique, it's, "Hey, that was fun. What a nifty mutant outfit!"

Not butt kissing involved on this one: Thanks to the staff for working extra hard during what is already a busy time of year to roll out something different and fun. The hardest part of any endeavor is the creative process, and this was new, enjoyable stuff.

Mr. Skullhead, I look forward to next year's rant!

Edit: I should have used more synonyms for "fun."

[Chazriel]

All other things aside it is important to note that they actually go out of their way to make interesting content for the holidays here.
I play two other games seriously on the web, both free, and in one of them they never do anything for the holiday season. (They always do the April first practical joke strangely enough, but nothing for the holidays).
In the other they gave what appeared to be one nice present (3 days ago) that turns out virtually worthless in use unless you have happened to donate enough to push what can be compared to your adventures here up to the stratosphere. So it really was a backhanded present meant to get people to spend money.
Hopefully this puts perspective on things.
I appreciate what they do here.

[mikelj]

Originally Posted by mr skullhead

[...]Fuck you.

Merry Crimbo to all, and to all a "fuck you".

Good Crimbo on my end. I leveled like a madman on scaling monsters. I got all the rare drops using ~+180% drops. I got tons of the consumables. I liked being able to pick the gift. I would have liked wrapping paper for an outfit but we got the very cool "genetic engineering" meat pastables. I hope you can work in a penguin Crimbo again next year. I love the Penguin Mafia storylines.

Oh and maybe you can make it not suck balls. <3 mr. skullhead <3

Merry Christmas/Crimbo/Holidays to all the staff at Asymmetric, and all of my fellow KoLers.

Also a special "thanks" to CDMoyer and the rest of you that really beat the shit out the Crimbo lag. There were only a couple of occasions this Crimbo where adventuring was rough and I spent thousands of adventures.

[tripwood]

That rant was hilarious, thanks Mr. Skullhead. I hope father crimbo asks us to eat his ass with sour cream next year instead of giving us a present. That would be quite merry.

Thanks for all the hard work and interesting Crimbo. Personally, I thought last year's was incredible and very hard to live up to, content and flavor-wise. I think the buzz that you guys created by asking us to pick sides brings a different type of fun to the game this year and although I personally liked last year's better, I can recognize how much fun was had by all!

Now I'll squeeze my sub-optimal grubworm (I had one as a kid that I loved!) and go to bed knowing that whenever assholes are around, you'll be there to quell their feverish sphincter symphony.

[The Kaiser]

Some people just don't get it. Crimbo isn't about leveling. It isn't about getting optimal pressies. It's about new, funny content. Sure, you can level. Sure, you can make meat like crazy. But TPTB work extra hard this time of the year not to give you scaling monsters, but to give you fun.

When I saw that glow-in-the-dark burrowgrub, dude, I almost pissed myself with laughter. I'm serious. I picked the watch, but I bought the burrowgrub half an hour later. It embodies the spirit of this Crimbo: mutant, radioactive, disgustingly horrifying, and hilarious.

So I don't evaluate Crimbo as a "I got 2*10^4 muscle substats, some meat and saved 145.6 turns on future basement runs". I had fun. A lot of it. A good Crimbo by my standards.

[Sleeping_one]

mr skullhead-Good Job
IstariAsuka-Nice your post had some sense

To those other guys-Fuck you Two Fuck you and your famillies( Not that I actually care I just needed an excuse to the tell someone Fuck you) and your friends.